'Inside the New Right:' What James Pogue's reporting has showed him about the future of conservative politics

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🗓️ 2 June 2022

⏱️ 45 minutes

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James Pogue's reporting for Vanity Fair has been one of the most-talked-about political articles of the year. Brian Stelter asks Pogue about the "dissident right;" its use of words like "regime;" and why it flies under the radar of much of the media. Pogue describes how he gained the trust of key sources like J.D. Vance and Blake Masters. He warns that "if we don't get government working again, on some level, somebody is going to come in and do something very authoritarian because our society is breaking down."

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0:00.0	It is one of the most talked about articles of the year.
0:04.9	A piece for Vanity Fair titled Inside the New Right, where Peter Teal is placing his biggest bets.
0:13.2	The article features figures like JD Vance and Blake Masters.
0:18.9	And it may hold the key to unlocking the future of conservative politics.
0:24.8	So why has this article resonated and what does the author think we all need to know?
0:30.7	Those are some of the questions for this week's reliable sources podcast.
0:34.8	Let's cue the music.
0:37.1	I'm Brian Stelter and this weekly podcast is our chance to go in depth with media leaders and newsmakers
0:43.9	talking about the story behind the story.
0:47.5	And that's exactly what James Pogue was able to get at through his reporting
0:52.7	about the new right or the so-called red-pilled right.
0:56.6	He described a conference called Natcon, which he says has grown into a big tent gathering
1:01.4	for a whole range of people who want to push the American right in a more economically
1:06.2	populist, culturally conservative, assertively nationalist direction.
1:11.9	Pogue was able to gain really unique access to some of these key figures.
1:17.0	And he was given the time in the space by Vanity Fair to tell a complete story.
1:22.5	One that you rarely hear during political punditry about Donald Trump or the Republican party.
1:28.9	No, no, what Pogue gets at is something deeper and newer.
1:33.3	Pogue is a contributing editor at Harper's.
1:35.7	He's an author of a book called Shows in Country, Rebellion in the West.
1:39.6	And let's get to him.
1:41.0	James Pogue joins me now.
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