I drew this on a piece of paper and now I'm here, I'm getting dragged in at 43-mile an hour by a car.

I hope I'm right, you know, and if I'm not, someone else will have to tell the tale.

Hey everyone, I'm Chris Hall and this is the downtime podcast, the podcast for the true fans of

gravity mountain biking,

taking you deeper into the sport than anywhere else.

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downtimepodcast.com. All right, today I'm joined by Matt Jones for a really honest and reflective conversation about what it takes to build a life around mountain biking.

You may have seen his latest Red Bull video where he jumps through two autonomous moving

trucks, but I wanted to go beyond the spectacle and understand the process behind it. We talk about

fear, pressure and the uncertainty that comes with taking on ideas that don't have a clear

path to the finish line. We also get into the business side of what he does, turning ideas

into real ventures, balancing content creation with family life,

building health care and the development of his new mountain bike game Mavericks,

including working with trail builders and bringing Rob Warner into the mix to try and capture

the feel of mountain biking in gaming form. It's a conversation about creativity, risk,

resilience and doing things your own way. So, without further ado, here's Matt Jones. Matt Jones, welcome to the downtime podcast, mate. How are you doing? Good, man, buzzing. Yeah, we're in London. This is fancy pants, isn't it here? This is the dream, mate. This is absolutely a dream for me to have a place like this. Proper studio. One day, one day. Yeah, thanks to Red Bull for putting us up in this insane little spot. We're here ultimately because you've just released another Nuts video. This time you decided to jump through two moving trucks, which I'm still not convinced this is a great idea, but you survived. Where does an idea like that come from? Give us some kind of background on how

you come up with this stuff or whether people come to you. Yeah, it's a good question. I don't

have a straight answer. It was 100% my idea because I drew it and sent it to Hugh, who was my

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