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Killer Instinct

Inside the Leslie Preer Murder with Stephanie Ramos

Killer Instinct

Savannah Brymer & Studio71

Society & Culture, True Crime, News

4.22.7K Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2026

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

This week we revisit the brutal murder of Leslie Preer with Stephanie Ramos of ABC News to delve deeper into the details of what happened, and how genetic genealogy was key to helping solve this case. Stephanie is here to break down what happened, and also to talk about her new podcast on the murder titled ‘Blood and Water’. Get exclusive Killer Instinct content on my patreon : ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/killerinstinct⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/KillerInstinctPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Savannah on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@savannahbrymer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Savannah on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@savannahbrymer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello everyone. What is up? Welcome back to another episode of Killer Instinct, you guys. Thank you so much for joining me here today. If you're new here, hi, my name is Savannah and I am your host of Killer Instinct. And before we get started, make sure you go ahead and hit that subscribe button. That way you never miss an episode.

0:21.1

We post weekly here on the podcast every single Wednesday.

0:24.0

You're not going to want to miss it.

0:25.1

We also upload the video version of the podcast onto YouTube on Wednesdays as well.

0:29.9

And if you're looking for more exclusive killer instinct content, you can always find that over in our Patreon.

0:34.4

The links are always in the description box below.

0:38.8

We post an additional three exclusive episodes a month over on Patreon. We end the month with an exclusive live stream,

0:44.2

and we have a bi-weekly true crime newsletter called The Brief. Now, with that all being said,

0:50.1

I am so excited for today's episode. Today we are doing something a little bit different here

0:56.8

on Killer Instinct. I am absolutely honored to share this with you guys. Today, I got the

1:03.7

opportunity to sit down with ABC News correspondent Stephanie Ramos to take a deeper dive into the

1:10.7

case of Leslie Prier.

1:12.5

And if this case sounds familiar, it is because we covered this case.

1:15.9

Several months ago, we covered the case of Leslie Prier here on Killer Instinct.

1:20.3

Stephanie has since premiered her own podcast called Blood and Water that takes a deep dive

1:24.8

into the case of Leslie Prier.

1:27.0

Across the six episodes in the podcast, blood and water unpacks the twists, the theories,

1:32.7

and the decades-long mystery that finally led to this case officially being solved.

1:37.7

It really is a compelling listen that blends firsthand interviews and investigative reporting,

1:42.9

and I am lucky enough to be able to sit down with

1:45.7

Stephanie today and talk to her about the case, talk to her about the insight that she had,

1:51.2

and really just take a deeper dive into the Leslie Peer case all in all. So that is what we are doing

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