Inside the IRS Phone Scam Bust
The Perfect Scam
AARP
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🗓️ 28 September 2018
⏱️ 24 minutes
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Summary
Every year thousands of Americans get fraudulent calls from con artists claiming to be from the IRS. Working from call centers around the world, these fraudsters pressure targets with threats of jail, liens and garnished wages to scam them out of money. We uncover how these call centers work and speak to a 19-year-old who helped the FTC shut down one of the largest.
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| 0:00.0 | Coming up this week on AARP the perfect scam. |
| 0:03.0 | I've interviewed Conman for a long time, convicted Conman and they typically are hardened |
| 0:07.5 | criminals. |
| 0:08.5 | These are not hardened criminals. |
| 0:09.6 | More and more with the podcast. I'm Will Johnson. Welcome back to our show and I'm joined here once again by the |
| 0:24.5 | ARP's Fraud Watch Network Ambassador Frank Abagnale. Frank good to see you once again. |
| 0:28.0 | Great to see you. |
| 0:29.0 | Frank, this week we're going to tell our listeners about a scam that has cost Americans over $100 million. |
| 0:37.0 | It has to do with the IRS and certainly this is a type of scam you've heard of. |
| 0:41.3 | This is a really big one that actually got busted. The folks that were doing this one, it was an Indian call center. But let's talk about call centers and IRS scams. First of all, if the IRS wants to get in touch with you what can you expect will they call you they don't make phone calls they'll write you a letter okay and they'll have a reference number up in the right hand corner for you to refer to when you call them and they're not |
| 1:05.1 | going to telephone you and certainly the IRS is not going to call you and |
| 1:08.6 | demand that you pay back taxes immediately or you'll get arrested Or you'll get arrested. |
| 1:13.4 | You'll get arrested and they're not going to tell you to pay the back taxes on Apple |
| 1:17.2 | pay or go down the Walmart and get a green dot card as money of those scams say. Don't wire money to the IRS. |
| 1:24.0 | Exactly. |
| 1:25.0 | All right, Frank, I want to introduce our |
| 1:28.0 | our listeners to 20-year-old J. Ash Dubay. |
| 1:31.0 | He's lived in Mumbai, India, all his life. In the summer of 2016, he and his best friend made a phone |
| 1:37.4 | call that changed their lives and ultimately helped bring an in to a vast scam that cost Americans over hundreds of millions of dollars. |
| 1:45.0 | Jayesh and his friend Pawan Puyarri were working in what's called a boiler room, |
| 1:50.0 | scamming Americans over the phone by pretending to be from the IRS and demanding back taxes. |
| 1:56.0 | Jayesh and hundreds of other scammers were using all the latest tools to swindle Americans, |
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