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The Two Matts

Inside the GB News scandal - with Alan Rusbridger

The Two Matts

The New World

Politics, Government, News, News Commentary

4.2577 Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2026

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Alan Rusbridger joins the Matts to discuss The New World’s investigation into GB News’s persistent breaches of Ofcom’s code on impartiality and accuracy. Get the inside track on the story from an editor who has led some of the most consequential newspaper investigations of our age. They discuss what happens next and what Ofcom should do to fix the reality of a TV channel out of control and basically operating as Nigel Farage’s Reform TV. Enjoy!


Produced by Matt Withers


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Transcript

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0:00.0

It strikes me as deeply, deeply troubling that this has been allowed to go on for so long

0:09.0

and GB News is allowed to grow so big without off-com intervening.

0:15.0

Actually watching a programme in its entirety and realised, well, what would it be like if this was your news source is, you know, very enlightening and not in a good way?

0:29.6

Paul Marshall, the founder and funder of TV News, predicts that Sky News will drop out of the race at some point in the next three years

0:38.7

before the next election, and it will then be the BBC and GB News head to head.

0:46.4

Hello and happy Thursday.

0:48.3

Happy Thursday, one and all.

0:49.5

Good Thursday.

0:50.5

That voice, that third voice was the voice of Editors'at-Lage, Alan Rusbridger.

0:56.7

Welcome.

0:57.3

Former Guardian editor, editor of Prospect magazine, and now editor-at-large of The New World

1:02.9

and also media confidential podcaster.

1:06.4

But most importantly, given the conversation we're going to have today, the lead journalist on an investigation in the new world this week about G.B. News and how G.B. News is consistently breaking in breach of off-com regulations on impartiality and accuracy and Alan's investigation which is the cover

1:30.2

story in the magazine this week and is all online and it's in its glory for you to read absolutely

1:35.8

free of charge right now if you haven't read it already was the subject of Ed Davies question to

1:40.8

Kirstama at PMQ's yesterday so it's got some traction this story, Alan.

1:46.6

Would you, for the benefit of those who don't know the ins and outs,

1:50.4

and I apologize, because I realize you've,

1:53.6

this is probably the 84th time you've gone through this

1:56.6

in the last 48 hours, but give the dear listeners

2:00.6

the helicopter view of what we did why we did it

2:03.3

and what we found please well as you know when broadcasting happened in the UK the MPs wanted it

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