Inside the fallout surrounding the NFLPA's collusion grievance, with Pablo Torre
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🗓️ 15 July 2025
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
Pablo Torre kicked the NFL news cycle into hyperdrive last month in what's supposed to be a relatively quiet part of the calendar when he dropped on his podcast the 61-page ruling behind a collusion grievance filed by the NFLPA against the league. The story has only picked up steam since then, highlighted by news—broken by ESPN last week—of a confidentiality agreement between the league and players union to hide the details of the arbitration decision. So where does all this stand with all 32 teams set to open training camp in a matter of days? Pablo joins Robert Mays to dig into all the details on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.
Host: Robert Mays
With: Pablo Torre
Executive Producer: Michael Beller
Producer: Michael Beller
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| 0:35.5 | Welcome to the Athletic Football Show. I'm Robert Mays, something a little bit different for you guys today. Obviously, it's been a huge story in the NFL world over the past couple weeks. |
| 0:44.6 | The collusion ruling with the NFL and the NFLPA and the 61 page document that was released in correspondence with that ruling. |
| 0:53.3 | Pablo Torre and Mike Florio did a great job shining a light on this. |
| 0:56.9 | Pablo has done fantastic reporting throughout the entire process of just getting his hands on |
| 1:01.4 | this document and letting people know what that process looked like from the NFL and |
| 1:07.1 | the NFLPA side of this. |
| 1:08.6 | And it's really set off a huge series of events with more reporting |
| 1:12.9 | from ESPN as it relates to Loyal Howe the executive director of the PA and where the PA goes from here. |
| 1:19.5 | So I had Pablo on today to talk about all of that, the most explosive and important points from that 61 page ruling. |
| 1:26.4 | Why the union specifically decided that they |
| 1:29.8 | wanted to suppress and bury that 61 page ruling when it seemed like it would be a pretty |
| 1:34.4 | easy win for that group as they tried to fight for a little bit of leverage in a world where |
| 1:39.5 | they always struggle to get some. And then we also talked about where the union goes from here. What happens |
| 1:46.2 | with Lloyd Howell? What is the correct path forward? And what are some of the challenges to how |
| 1:51.7 | the union is going to be able to sort through all of this in the coming weeks, months, |
| 1:56.5 | and years? So sincerely appreciated the time from Pablo. Really enjoyed the conversation. |
| 2:01.3 | Hope you guys do as well. |
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