Hi this is Rob McCollum, one of the producers of 1865. Welcome to Inside the episode, Episode 11 of 1865. Joining me is always Stephen Walters and Eric Archiella.

Howdy, howdy.

The writers of the piece welcome back guys.

So you know it's been a while we recorded a lot of these inside the episodes a while back and now we are re-meeting and talking about them again now that it is out and online and available for people to hear. So that is very exciting.

Today for the first time.

So this was the actual debut day of the entire series. So you guys are starting, I'm starting to get feedback now from people who are listening to it and seem to be as excited about it as I have been for a very long time.

So it's really great to know that this is out there and the thing that people are receiving and responding to.

But we've got to jump ahead now because those people are just listening to episodes one and two. But we are in episode 11 where Mary Serrat has hung and there are consequences and we are learning about those in this episode.

Yeah and the death of Mary Serrat is one of the more controversial aspects of the real history of the story of Edwin Stanton.

You know in the culmination of the tribunal she's executed, she's the first woman executed in United States history.

And under some dubious circumstances because not everyone in the country agrees with Edwin Stanton's belief that she should be put to death and that her crimes are deserving of that.

Eric do you have anything to add to this idea about let me ask you was Mary innocent or was she guilty?

You and I have grappled on that a lot.

I mean she was definitely guilty.

Question is was she guilty of receiving or to the point of receiving the death penalty?

Yeah how far did it on it was she?

There were a lot of other conspirators that were a whole lot more involved than she was.

Sam Arnold and Michael Olochlin.

They were both involved in the kidnapping plot and there were some that said Olochlin was there waiting to kill Stanton that night.

And those people were whisked away off to dry tour to gun given life in jail which didn't last very long for them.

Samuel mud was whisked away and then you know we have Mary who was hung so you just have to ask yourself was what she did in her complicity worthy of hanging when the others were only right.

It's like did the punishment fit the crime exactly right.

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