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The Political Scene | The New Yorker

Inside the Democratic Party’s Rift Over Israel and Gaza

The Political Scene | The New Yorker

The New Yorker

Lizza, Wnyc, Wickenden, News, President, Washington, Obama, Barack, Politics

4.33.9K Ratings

🗓️ 8 November 2023

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Andrew Marantz, who has reported extensively on the far right and far left of American politics, recently wrote a piece about how the different wings of the Democratic Party have responded to Hamas’s terror attack and to Israel’s war on Gaza. Whereas the majority of Congress joined on to a resolution to support Israel with no preconditions, members of the left-wing Squad introduced a bill demanding a ceasefire. The White House press secretary, Karine Jean-Pierre, called its advocates “repugnant” and “disgraceful,” and, after the recording of this podcast, Representative Rashida Tlaib was censured by the House for her rhetoric about Palestine. Still, Marantz argues that it’s a testament to the pressures exerted by progressives—and by groups like Jewish Voice for Peace and IfNotNow—that the Biden Administration has asked for a humanitarian pause in Gaza. He joins Tyler Foggatt to discuss the state of the Democratic coalition, and how political norms change.

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Do you think that Biden's stance on Israel might decide whether or not he's reelected?

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I don't see any good ways out for Biden on this one. I think there's less bad and more bad ways out.

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The danger of this moment for him politically is that it becomes

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for him what Vietnam was for Lyndon Johnson. I mean, you can't control events around the world

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as the American president, but you have to respond to them, and there's no good way to respond

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to this one.

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That's my colleague, Andrew Morantz. Andrew comes on the podcast respond to them, and there's no good way to respond to this one.

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That's my colleague Andrew Morantz.

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Andrew comes on the podcast a lot because he reports on far right and far left political movements,

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and we happen to live in a world of extremes.

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