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So should we talk about the charges or the arrest? Well, let's start with the charges,

just so we know what we're looking at. So it's a speaking indictment, as they say,

that at first blush seems to have a lot of detail. It talks about the conveyance of massive,

massive amounts of drugs, cocaine into the United States. By the way, you know,

almost the only people who get talked about are Maduro and his wife, because that's interesting to folks.

But there are, you know, as I said, six defendants, and there have to be allegations with

respect to all of them for an indictment to be satisfactory. So there are a lot of things about

them. I don't know that there's a lot in the indictment that has been unsealed and that's publicly

available and that we can all talk about and vet

and analyze and evaluate that there's a lot new in terms of what kind of evidence they have

against Maduro. That is not required in an indictment. So when we get the question, which I guess

we should ask ourselves, from the reading of the indictment, how strong do you think the case is?

That's a little bit hard to answer. But I'm guessing, unlike, is often the case in recent weeks and months on this show, that the case is probably pretty strong. Yeah, I mean, let me just put an

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