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Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

Inside the Case Against Kouri Richins: Nate Eaton on the Evidence Behind the Guilty Verdict

Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

iHeartPodcasts and CrimeOnline

True Crime

4.7792 Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2026

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

After weeks of testimony and a defense case that ended without a single witness, the jury in the Kouri Richins trial returned a guilty verdict in the death of Eric Richins.

In this week’s episode of Zone 7, Sheryl McCollum talks with investigative reporter Nate Eaton, who has been in court following the testimony, key witnesses, and the evidence surrounding Eric's death.

Together, they discuss the prosecution's theory of motive, the evidence tied to money and deception, the Valentine's Day attempted-poisoning allegation, and the courtroom testimony that steadily tightened the case.

Sheryl then provides a final trial update after the verdict, focusing on what the defense did not address and what the guilty verdict implies about the case.

Guest Bio

Nate Eaton is an award-winning journalist, Dateline NBC contributor, and co-founder of EastIdahoNews.com. He is known for his investigative reporting, courtroom coverage, and years of experience covering major criminal cases and breaking news.

About the Host 

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an active crime scene investigator for a Metro Atlanta Police Department and the director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, which partners with colleges and universities nationwide. With more than 4 decades of experience, she has worked on thousands of cold cases using her investigative system, The Last 24/361, which integrates evidence, media, and advanced forensic testing.

Her work on high-profile cases include, in part, The Boston Strangler, Natalie Holloway, and Tupac Shakur. Her work on the Moore’s Ford Bridge lynching led to her Emmy Award for "CSI: Atlanta" and induction into the National Law Enforcement Hall of Fame in 2023.

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Highlights:

(0:00) Sheryl McCollum welcomes Nate Eaton for a courtroom-level look at the Kouri Richins trial

(2:30) Why Robert Josh Grossman’s testimony stood out as one of the strangest and most revealing moments in court

(4:00) Eric Richins’ death, the 911 call, and autopsy findings pointing toward fentanyl poisoning

(5:00) Life insurance questions, trust issues, and millions in debt

(7:15) The children’s grief book and why it still leaves people feeling unsettled

(9:15) How testimony from the alleged dealer and the house cleaner helped prosecutors build their fentanyl theory

(10:45) The Valentine's Day sandwich allegation and why prosecutors pointed to it as an earlier attempted poisoning

(13:45) Internet searches about fentanyl, prison, and life insurance payouts add to the prosecution’s theory on intent

(15:00) A forged $250,000 HELOC, hidden financial decisions, and contact with a divorce attorney show a marriage in decline

(21:00) The scope of Kouri’s financial collapse and apparent lack of remorse

(27:45) Money-themed memes found on Kouri’s phone just hours after Eric's death

(30:45) Final update: Sheryl reacts to the finals days of the trial and the guilty verdict

 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:11.7

Nate Eaton wanted to be a reporter since he was a kid, y'all.

0:17.4

And, you know, when he first started out, he did things like he covered the execution of the D.C. sniper.

0:23.7

He went and covered the aftermath of the Virginia Tech shooting.

0:28.1

He's talked to serial killers and Garth Brooks and covered tornadoes and floods and earthquakes, all kind of stuff.

0:35.5

But y'all probably know him best as the person that tracked down Lori Valo.

0:40.7

I have called him a hero privately and publicly.

0:44.9

I'm going to do it again today.

0:46.9

He got that devil on tape when nobody else was even looking for her.

0:52.2

So, you know, his awards, and he's gotten the Edward R. Murr Award and different things,

0:58.3

he's just ordered every one of them.

1:00.2

But today, he is with us because he has been in court,

1:05.5

and there is nobody better to walk us through what is happening with Corey Richens. Nate, welcome to Zone 7,

1:14.6

honey. Oh, thank you, Cheryl. So good to talk with you again. You're very kind. I appreciate it.

1:19.8

Well, it's all true. And you're a super sweet person and a kind and generous person and your wife is better than you.

1:26.9

I agree, 100%. I mean, I tell you what,

1:30.2

the two of y'all together are just adorable. And I just appreciate everything that y'all are doing

1:35.4

collectively and individually. Well, thank you. And kudos to you. Well, you got three little ones

1:40.6

that are kind of right behind you. And one of them, I think, might surpass all of us.

1:46.1

She's already surpassed me, that's for sure. Oh, my gosh. Just adorable family all the way around.

1:52.1

But listen now, you have three children. Corey has three boys. I mean, this thing just gets more devilish as time goes on for me. I thought the book

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