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🗓️ 11 September 2025
⏱️ 84 minutes
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This week, Frank and Dan dig into the shocking story of a Florida pastor who ran a $50 million call center cult, complete with forced labor, starvation, and abuse in the name of God.
They also cover: Kristi Noem funneling Homeland Security funds to churches, the Taliban refusing to let men rescue women after an earthquake, a chaplain abusing detainees in ICE custody, and a Mormon columnist caught in a predator sting. Listener emails tackle everything from schizophrenia stigma to Dobson’s “strong-willed child” legacy.
And in the final segment: the Wall Street Journal’s profile of ex-Mormon TikTok influencers—and why Utah Senator Mike Lee is losing his mind over it.
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Epsiode 716
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everybody, everybody. |
| 0:19.1 | Hi, friends. |
| 0:20.1 | Well, from beautiful Salt Lake City, Utah. It's thank God I'm atheist. |
| 0:24.7 | Were we a couple of atheists, just normal dudes who don't believe in God, just try to make sense of this crazy mixed up, overly religified world. |
| 0:37.0 | I'm Frank Feldman. |
| 0:38.2 | And I'm Dan Beecher. |
| 0:39.5 | And coming up on the show today, Dan, the Wall Street Journal, not a, not a publication we |
| 0:45.9 | tend to go to that rag for, for all of our stories, ran of a great story this week |
| 0:53.0 | about the rise of ex-Morman influencers on TikTok. |
| 1:00.5 | I don't know if you and I read the same article because I saw a hit piece about the Mormon church. |
| 1:06.2 | Well, that's what that's what Mike Lee saw as well, our esteemed Utah senator. Oh, to the, |
| 1:13.5 | our senator from Utah. So yeah, we're going to be shitting on Mike Lee, uh, coming in the, |
| 1:20.1 | in the, in the, you're not going to want to miss that. It's always open season on Mike Lee. |
| 1:23.5 | Mike Lee is he, he, he is a diarrhea fart of a person. |
| 1:31.0 | He's really he's unbelievably awful. |
| 1:33.3 | So piece of shit. |
| 1:34.7 | We'll be getting that to, or we'll be getting to that in the second half of the show. |
| 1:40.0 | But first, we have stories. Yeah. Things that happened from the news this week, including, |
| 1:48.7 | and I'm going to get started with this one, Dan, the ongoing fallout over the thoughts and |
| 1:56.7 | prayers that were extended to the families. |
| 2:00.9 | We're still doing thoughts and prayers. We're still doing thoughts and prayers. |
| 2:02.6 | We're still doing it? |
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