Hello and welcome to Little Gold Men, the Award season podcast from Vanity Fair and

Panoply. Yes, we have another episode this week on top of our the and I'm all alone in the studio again but on the line with me is

Vaney,

Joanna Robinson. Joanna, thank you for being here.

Thank you for having me, Katie.

I mean, more like thank you for being here is and like everyone else is off doing

something else.

I mean I haven't listened to you monologue about the Oscars.

It's terrifyingly easy to imagine that.

So later this episode I got on the phone with our executive editor of the West Coast, Krista Smith to talk about the

Hollywood issue cover which launched today.

It was very exciting.

And then also Richard Skyped in for a minute to talk about Sundance so far.

We'll talk to him more about that next week.

But in the meantime, Joanna, I feel like there's some

stories about the Oscar nominations that have emerged since we all talked Tuesday morning. So yeah,

what's everyone buzzing about? For me, it seems like everyone is still really upset

about Amy Adams' snub, more so than most snobs.

Yeah I mean the biggest snub for me I think in the best actress category is in that

betting like personally but I think you're right that the larger sort of

outcry is about Amy Adams. I think Arrival was just such a like a popular film

that more people got a chance to see her work. Well an Arrival is also a best

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