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Hello and welcome to the Big Technology podcast, a show for cool-ed-added nuance conversations of the tech world and beyond.

I'm sure if you've been following the big tech world, you've been hearing a lot about the

antitrust movement towards the big tech companies, namely Apple, Amazon, Facebook, and

alphabet, Google, maybe there's a meta in there. I don't know, it gets confusing. They keep on

changing their names when they get in trouble. Anyway, it's really difficult oftentimes to get a handle

on what's actually going on because there's so many bills moving, so many different complaints,

so much legal language, and then nothing ever gets done. And I thought, you know what, it would

be great to actually bring you inside the

antitrust situation, especially looking at Apple's anti-competitive or alleged anti-competitive behavior.

Do it through the lens of a company that many of you know well, the lens of Spotify and actually

talk about what's happening on the ground, why it makes a difference

to you and where we might go from here. So my hope is at the end of this conversation, you'll have a

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