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Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

Inside S-4: America’s Secret Government UFO Program (‘S4’ Filmmaker Luigi Vendittelli)

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.9648 Ratings

🗓️ 1 April 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Luigi Vendittelli is the director of the upcoming documentary "S4: The Bob Lazar Story", a figure he calls, "the original UFO whistleblower." Change Agents is an IRONCLAD Original Chapters: 01:15 - Meeting Bob Lazar 10:33 - Why UFO Interest Has Gone Mainstream 17:22 - Is S4” Real? 23:17 - The Best Evidence of UFOs 42:12 - Addressing Holes in Bob Lazar’s Story 47:18 - Why Is the Government Covering Up What They Know 54:50 - Is It Possible to Reverse Engineer UFOs? Sponsors: Firecracker Farm Use code IRONCLAD to get 15% off your first order at https://firecracker.farm/ GHOSTBED: Go to https://www.GhostBed.com/IRONCLAD and use code IRONCLAD for an extra 15% off sitewide. Norwood Sawmills: Learn more about Norwood Sawmills and how you can start milling your own lumber at https://norwoodsawmills.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=ironclad&utm_campaign=ironclad Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

He's definitely a person that was brought out there, in my opinion.

0:04.6

He did work on something that was unconventional.

0:08.2

They told him it was not made by humans.

0:19.5

Welcome back to change agents in Ironclad Original, presented by Firecracker Farm.

0:24.0

Our guest today is the director of a documentary called S4, the Bob Lazar story.

0:30.3

And we're going to be talking about whether or not there is or isn't a UFO reverse engineering program.

0:36.2

For those of you who are unfamiliar, Bob Lizard is one of the most controversial figures in

0:40.3

the UAP or unidentified aerial phenomenon world and is considered the original UAP whistleblower.

0:47.3

He claims to have worked at a secretive site called S4, trying to reverse engineer a UFO.

0:53.3

Though he has many critics, people who have spent time with him have found him to be credible,

0:58.2

including Joe Rogan, who said,

1:00.2

I don't smell a bit with Bob Lazar and his story.

1:03.9

Let's dive in.

1:14.9

Bob Lazar, man. Bob Lazar, yeah.

1:16.7

An interesting character, for sure, fascinating to some, conspiracy theorist to others.

1:22.9

How did you end up meeting this man and then spending four years with him?

1:26.7

Well, it's, what a journey.

1:30.9

Well, that's a loaded question, dude.

1:32.9

That's a long, long story.

1:34.3

But like the real short version is that I reached out in 2021 because I wanted to work on

1:42.5

recreating a flying saucer.

1:45.8

I didn't want to make just a creative version of a flying saucer.

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