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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Inside Russia’s plot to put Trump back in the White House – with Gavin Esler and Joseph Webster

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Government, Politics, Society & Culture

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 17 January 2024

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

The 2024 US Presidential election will likely see Biden and Trump back on the ballot. And, if previous elections are anything to go by, Russia will play a key role in manipulating things in Trump’s favour. Joseph Webster, senior fellow at the Atlantic Council and editor of the China-Russia report, joins Gavin Esler in The Bunker, to discuss what Russia seeks to gain out of a Trump presidency, and how they might just get it. • “Gasoline prices are a major determinant in U.S. elections. Anything that Russia can do to lower or increase prices will have a big impact.” – Joseph Webster • “Disinformation campaign efforts by the Russian state and by figures associated with the Russian state will almost certainly persist into 2024.” – Joseph Webster www.patreon.com/bunkercast  Written and Presented by Gavin Esler. Produced by: Eliza Davis Beard. Audio production: Alex Rees. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Music by Kenny Dickinson. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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after theirs with dental life. Pick up dental life in the pet food aisle. Hello and welcome to the bunker I'm Gavin Esler. One of the founding fathers of American democracy, Thomas Jefferson, is credited with an observation that applies to all democracies and all free and fair elections.

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We do not have government by the majority. We have government by the

1:25.4

majority who participate, Jefferson said. But what if in the world of artificial

1:30.6

intelligence, social media and, as Donald Trump's

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spokesperson once put it, alternative facts. Voters are

1:37.4

misled or confused not merely by the promises of homegrown

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politicians but by manipulation and dirty tricks from foreign

1:45.5

governments. How far can elections be manipulated by outside interests? It's an urgent question

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since 2024 is a year of dozens of elections worldwide from Brazil to Taiwan,

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India and the United Kingdom to the United States.

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