Inside out: How to fix the UK’s prison system + Labour embraces unpopularity
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Pod Save the UK
4.6 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 12 September 2024
⏱️ 50 minutes
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The government has won a vote in the commons over its controversial winter fuel payments - but Keir Starmer knows he’s not winning over the public. Unpopular decisions are the theme of the day as Nish returns to join Coco on the PSUK couch.
Later, our hosts are joined by former inmate turned podcaster and TV host David Navarro, alongside CEO of the Prison Reform Trust Pia Sinha to discuss the disastrous state of the UK’s prisons. It’s an eye opening chat - through David’s lived experience and Pia’s knowledge of the system we gain a better understanding of where our justice system is going wrong and how we can begin to fix it.
Nish fights sleep as we’re brought up to speed with the Tory leadership latest, before firing up in disappointment at misguided comments on the Grenfell disaster from two former Prime Ministers. Coco lightens the mood with the unexpected love story between two of Westminster’s best known MPs.
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Useful Links:
David’s Channel 4 Documentary https://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-secrets-of-uk-prisons-untold
Prison Reform Trust https://prisonreformtrust.org.uk/
Guests:
Pia Sinha, CEO Prison Reform Trust
David Navarro, Host, Delinquent Nation
Audio credits:
Sky News
BBC
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| 0:00.0 | Hi this is Pod Save the UK, I'm Coco Khan. |
| 0:05.6 | And I'm Nishkumar and this week we're embracing the government's new found unpopularity. |
| 0:09.6 | And later we're joined by two very special guests to discuss the challenges facing our prison system. But first |
| 0:16.4 | Nish is back. Return of the Mac. Where have you been? I've been on tour. I was off last week because I was doing a last minute run of previews just before the |
| 0:26.3 | tour started and the tour is up and running. |
| 0:29.3 | Well obviously I'm heavily biased but I have seen the show and is fantastic and probably libelous. |
| 0:34.7 | It's definitely not libelous. I want that to make you make very clear. |
| 0:38.7 | For any lawyers listening who aren't going to come to the show. It's definitely 100% not libelous. |
| 0:43.7 | But it may be adjacent? |
| 0:45.7 | I believe that it's legally caveats sufficient. |
| 0:48.4 | Okay. It is a spicy show and if you would like to see a legally |
| 0:53.6 | caveated show you should absolutely get tickets. |
| 0:56.4 | It's on running around the country to end in November. |
| 0:58.4 | I'm off to Scotland tomorrow. |
| 0:59.8 | I'm off to Glasgow tomorrow, Glasgow Aberdeen, Edinburgh. I am all over the entire |
| 1:04.2 | United Kingdom and I'm also doing a day in Dublin which I'm very excited about. |
| 1:09.2 | But anyway let's get into the political news of the week where Kistabha asks, well who wants to be popular anyway? |
| 1:16.0 | We're going to have to be unpopular. |
| 1:18.0 | Tough decisions are tough decisions. |
| 1:21.0 | Popular decisions aren't tough, they're easy. When we talk about tough decisions... decisions. from I'm convinced that because they've run away from difficult decisions we haven't got the change we need for the country. |
| 1:36.0 | That's Kiestarma who seems to have aged a hundred years in the last couple of weeks |
| 1:40.0 | speaking to the BBC's Laura Koonsburg last Sunday. |
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