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Brussels Playbook Podcast

Inside Magyar’s grand bargain with the EU

Brussels Playbook Podcast

POLITICO

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.4202 Ratings

🗓️ 14 April 2026

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

The EU may be saying goodbye to Hungary’s Viktor Orbán, but the system that empowered him and the problems he’s left behind are still very much in place. Today on the podcast, Ian Wishart and Nick Vinocur discuss what a new leader in Budapest means for issues like Russia sanctions and the €90 billion loan for Ukraine that Hungary has been blocking. Also on the pod, Commission President Ursula von der Leyen has a vision of a vastly expanded European Union — but the bloc’s leaders are less enthusiastic. They fear the topic of enlargement will stoke support for far-right, populist parties. We unpack these concerns. Finally, we have some bad news for halloumi fans. Do you have any questions or comments for us? Sent them along to our WhatsApp here or via +32 491 05 06 29. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Good morning. It's Tuesday the 14th of April, and this is the Brussels Playbook podcast.

0:12.3

The vibe in Brussels today, cautiously optimistic. From the EU's point of view, at least,

0:18.0

it's finally seen off Hungary's Viktor Orban, thorn in its

0:21.0

side since 2010, and it thinks that this means it will make imposing sanctions on Russia

0:25.7

and sending money to Ukraine a whole lot easier. But is it really that straightforward?

0:31.7

And also on the podcast today, we talk about making the EU bigger, welcoming in new countries.

0:36.9

The Commission wants it, but many EU leaders are sceptical of even starting the debate

0:41.8

because they think voters might punish them.

0:45.1

And lastly, cheese.

0:47.3

Halumi.

0:48.3

There's been an outbreak of a highly contagious disease in Cyprus, and that's having a disastrous effect on production.

0:53.3

And you won't be surprised to learn that on a divided island it's fast becoming political

0:59.0

I'm Ian Wachat and with me today is our chief foreign correspondent Nick Vinikor. Hello Nick. Hi, good to be here and if I was Zoya I now ask you what your favorite European cheese is

1:10.0

because I think Hulumi is utterly disgusting.

1:13.0

Well, I'll say Feta and keep it apolitical.

1:17.1

I don't think there's any territorial dispute there.

1:19.9

Well, we'll talk about that later, about disgusting Hulumi.

1:23.7

First, this is the morning after the morning after, landslide in Hungary.

1:28.4

We talked a lot yesterday morning about what this means in Hungary.

1:32.4

But when the parties stop and the hangovers begin, the question starts.

1:35.6

So today let's examine what this means for the EU.

1:39.5

Already in Brussels, Nick, people think things were starting moving pretty fast, particularly

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