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Before we get into today's episode, just a quick note.

This interview was recorded two days before Border Patrol agents shot and killed Twin Cities nurse, Alex Pready.

Welcome to the Preamble podcast. This week, we're joined by Elisa Labett for our lead story.

Elise is a journalist who has covered global affairs and politics for more than two decades and is a regular

contributor to the preamble magazine. This week, she's looking into ICE recruitment. Who is being

drawn to these positions, and why do so many of the ads look like Norman Rockwell paintings?

And ahead, I'll speak with Congresswoman Angie Craig of Minnesota. She says Homeland Security Secretary

Christy Noam should be impeached over what's happening in her state. Plus, my interview with

former Justice Department pardon attorney Liz Oyer. She says the idea of absolute immunity for

ICE officers is just not true despite people like J.D. Vance saying it is. I'm Sharon McMahon, and this is

the preamble podcast. Here's Elise. In September, the Department of Homeland Security began

posting recruitment ads for immigration and customs enforcement, also known as ICE, on social media.

The images evoked warm nostalgia for an idealic America. Norman Rockwell's 1946 working on the

Statue of Liberty paired with slogans like, protect your homeland, defend your culture, and

Calvin Coolidge's remark that, quote,

those who do not want to be partakers of the American spirit,

what to not settle in America.

Each post includes a link, join ice.gov.

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