The challenge with Bitcoin is Bitcoin doesn't do anything.

It's just, it's your pet rock, you put under your mattress, just sits there.

Solana is not that. Solana has this thriving ecosystem of all these D-Fi protocols, these D-PIN teams. So you have all of this like cool activity happening on chain, and we've realized there's an opportunity to not only tap into all of that stuff, all of that stuff to earn incremental yields for our shareholders, but to then obviously take this idea of defy and of trading that Solana provides

and embedded into all kinds of applications and services around the internet.

I'm now joined by co-founder and managing partner of Multi-Coin Capital and Chairman of Forward Industries, Kyle Somanie. Kyle, how's it going?

Jan Marissa, thanks so much for having me.

Okay, what's the most exciting thing you've done in the last two days?

I went skydiving.

Okay.

That is very exciting.

Was it a first time?

Second time. I went skydiving like 14 years ago,

but like the most iconic skydiving in the world is over the palm in Dubai, so I had to do it.

All right, and I'm going to put you on the spot. Bring that back to Breakpoint. To break point. How is skydiving,

how does taking that risk and doing this beautiful thing, bring us back to Breakpoint. To breakpoint. How is skydiving, how does taking that risk and doing this beautiful thing bring us back

to Breakpoint and how you're interacting in the Salad of your business.

Have you ever traded a meme coin?

It's that risk.

It's that risk.

The exhilaration.

No, I think in all seriousness, the thing I've been most excited about was I got some

time backstage yesterday with the team from

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