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F1 with Joe Sayward on Miss Apex Podcast, an independent Formula One podcast that aims to bring you a race review before your Monday morning commute

and a wide array of F1 subject matter experts like Joe here that cover every aspect of F1 from

racing to politics, tech news and business. This show is safe for work. We're

keeping it clean here so you can play this with kids in the background or at work.

I'm your host, Richard Spaners Ready, and I'm joining you from inside a real shed in the actual outside.

Now I'm joined by a man who was described by a prominent and handsome F1 podcaster as someone

that I've now met. The Titanic Joe Joe Saywood, how's it going Joe?

Well I'm sinking obviously. If I'm Titanic, how can I possibly be still afloat?

The ship ruined the good name of Titans. No, you're like a Greek god a Titan of a man.

Yeah, yeah, I'm just the bloke who writes about motor racing for a long time, that's all.

Pretty big dude though, now I've met you in real life it's true.

What you mean talk? Yeah you're a tall human. A large human. I'm just going to say I'm glad you say

tall not wide you know so. Yes I'm tall enough but I'm not as tall as some of them, you know, there are lots of tall people.

Not in Formula One, lots of midgets in Formula One, but yeah, I'm just normal size really.

You're not, not compared to me me you're a Goliath but being

being small for a racing driver is the one thing that's stopping my son

being upset about being smaller than his mates. I said no that'll make you good as a

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