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WSJ Tech News Briefing

Inside Duolingo’s Controversial ‘AI-First’ Strategy

WSJ Tech News Briefing

The Wall Street Journal

Tech News, News

4.31.7K Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

When Duolingo’s CEO told staff he wanted the company to become an “AI-first” business, critics questioned if it was a euphemism for human layoffs. The WSJ Leadership Institute’s Belle Lin gets an update on how the pivot is working in practice. Also, workplace reporter Ray A. Smith explains how changes to the H-1B visa program sent the tech industry spiraling. Katie Deighton hosts. Sign up for the WSJ's free Technology newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Get out of the headlines and into real conversations happening inside global organizations with the Executive Insights podcast, brought to you by AWS.

0:09.6

Listen in on the Executive Insights podcast, available on all major podcast platforms.

0:18.8

Welcome to Tech News Briefing.

0:23.1

It's Tuesday, September 23rd.

0:25.3

I'm Katie Dayton for the Wall Street Journal.

0:31.1

Changes to an employment visa that's popular among tech companies have rattled the industry,

0:36.8

leading to frantic phone calls, legal briefings, and last-minute flights back to the US.

0:42.5

We dive into what happened when Trump overhauled the H-1B and ask what comes next.

0:48.9

Then we catch up with Duolingo, the language learning app that's navigating the waters of investing in AI without aggravating its human staff and users.

0:55.9

But first, President Trump rocked the tech world late last week with a sweep of changes to the H-1B

1:01.8

visa, a program that allows American firms to hire highly skilled foreign workers.

1:07.3

The visas become popular among tech companies, many of which went into crisis mode when the Trump

1:12.3

administration said it would add a new fee to H-1B applications.

1:16.6

Our reporter Ray Smith spent the weekend reporting the story.

1:20.1

So, Ray, what reasons did Trump give for making these sweeping changes to the H-1B?

1:25.3

One of the reasons is they felt that this was an unfair system to

1:29.1

U.S. workers. The idea was that we have people coming into this country basically taking American

1:35.0

jobs away from highly skilled Americans, and that was the premise behind why they feel like they

1:40.6

need to crack down on a system that they believe was being used by tech companies

1:45.0

to avoid hiring American workers.

1:47.9

Can you explain which kinds of companies are affected most by these changes?

1:52.7

It's primarily tech companies.

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