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Inside Criminal Law with Kirby Clements

DEVIANT

Cold Open Media

True Crime

4.8610 Ratings

🗓️ 4 April 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of DEVIANT Off Script, host Andrew Iden sits down with Atlanta-based defense attorney Kirby Clements. Kirby, who has experience on both sides of the legal system as a former prosecutor, provides a compelling look into the American justice system. They discuss the intricacies of representing clients, the challenges faced by defense attorneys, and the courtroom dynamics that often surprise the public. Kirby shares personal stories from his career, shedding light on the emotional and practical aspects of criminal defense. This episode is a must for anyone interested in the law, and the real-life scenarios that attorneys navigate daily. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC 00:00 Introduction and Guest Overview 01:41 Kirby's Journey to Becoming a Lawyer 02:38 Early Career as a Prosecutor 04:00 Memorable Courtroom Stories 10:29 Transition to Criminal Defense 18:29 Confronting a Killer Client 19:34 The Role of a Defense Attorney 20:24 Prosecutor vs. Defense: A Philosophical Debate 21:55 Defending the Guilty and the Innocent 24:19 The Emotional Toll of Defending the Innocent 27:35 Public Perception and Jury Bias 32:58 The Reality of the Criminal Justice System 37:10 The Impact of Resources on Legal Defense 38:31 Final Thoughts and Reflections Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, Deviant listeners, and for those of you that are watching on YouTube, our viewers as well.

0:04.8

Thanks for joining us this week for this episode of Deviant Offscript.

0:08.8

It's a conversation with a guy that I've known for a long time.

0:12.7

Kirby Clements, a Atlanta-based defense attorney.

0:16.9

And here's what's interesting.

0:18.4

I think that if you've never hired a defense attorney,

0:21.8

and if you've never dealt with a defense attorney in any sort of legal way, they have a very

0:27.3

interesting perspective on the American justice system. And one of the things that makes Kirby

0:32.6

interesting as well is that he's also seen it from the prosecution side. And so as somebody who's worked on both

0:38.8

sides of the legal fence, it's really a interesting conversation to talk about how those two

0:46.8

different sides approach a case and who may or may not have an advantage. Because I think when you

0:52.8

look at the American legal system in a lot of ways,

0:55.1

there are advantages to the prosecution, sort of a home game of sorts,

0:59.3

depending on the jurisdiction, obviously depending on the crime,

1:02.6

and something he and I got into in this interview,

1:05.5

which is also about how much money you have and how much you can spend on a formidable defense. And attorneys always have

1:12.9

really interesting stories because they see, they hear, they talk to people from all walks of life.

1:21.9

And Kirby is no different. It's a great peek into the world that lawyers have to navigate.

1:28.9

Here he is Atlanta defense attorney Kirby Clements.

1:38.4

Kirby, what is it that drew you to become a criminal defense attorney?

1:45.8

Well, the decision to be a lawyer, because I started out as a prosecutor, that just goes back to my childhood.

1:51.3

My mother used to always kind of push that.

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