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Hi, I'm Anouche. I'm Alfa. And I'm Steven.

And on today's episode of the New Statement podcast, we discuss how Boris Johnson is still

Prime Minister going into recess and you ask us, what is Jacob Reesmog's plan?

So it's now parliamentary recess and Boris Johnson is still the Prime Minister. Alfa, you've

been talking to some Tory MPs about sort of how he's managed to survive. How has he managed to

sort of stagger on this far and what does it mean about his near future, do you think?

Yeah, I think this is like one of the privileges of this job at the moment

that you just get to sit with Conservative MPs and just let them walk you through

why they haven't sat in a letter in and just the thinking around that and every sort of they say,

and you know, maybe this sign's like wishful thinking Alfa, you think maybe, yeah, but yeah,

it's just fascinating. I've been really trying more so than really ever before with this Boris

Johnson thing to speak to the same people really, really regularly to sort of track the mood,

especially if you sort of know that there's someone who's been wavering as to whether to send a letter

in because I think that's a good litmus test. It's so difficult talking about the Conservative party

and I think that this gets really lost in some of the coverage. I guess so difficult talking about

the mood when there are, you know, over 300 of them is, you know, actually talking about

that group as though there's a consensus among them and they're all on the same page is often not

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