Kasey Newton, the verge you published leaked audio from Mark Zuckerberg this week and it's

set the internet of flame.

How did you get the audio?

Well, I mean, I can't say too much about how I got it, but we know what I can tell you

is that in July, Facebook held a couple of open meetings for employees where they could

come and as part of those meetings, they could ask questions.

Like employees are really smart and they had a lot of good questions, but I think those

questions really revealed a lot of anxieties running through the company right now.

As a dude who writes a lot about Facebook from the outside, how stoked were you to get

inside the company like this?

You know, I'm a Facebook nerd, right?

I spend a lot of my day trying to understand this company, how it makes decisions, what

the people inside of it are thinking.

And so to me, every single question that he answers on this recording is a gift.

He talks about the rocky rollout of Libra, which is their cryptocurrency that they're developing.

The public things, I think, tend to be a little more dramatic, but a bigger part of this

private engagement with regulators around the world and those, I think, often are more

substantive.

He talks about the rise of TikTok, which is maybe their greatest rising competitor in the

social space and how they're planning to kind of stop it in their tracks.

We have a product called Lasso that's a standalone app that we're working on trying to get

product market in countries like Mexico is I think one of the first initial ones.

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