Inrupt’s John Bruce “The web we could have”

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9 • 654 Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2020

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on John Bruce, co-founder with Sir Tim Berners-Lee of Inrupt, to talk about remaking the web (3:40), putting data back in users’ control (5:30), data pods (6:50), getting “paid” for your data (8:50), why progress will be gradual (10:50), the underlying tech (13:20), how close it is to coming to market (15:00), the pilot with the NHS (17:00), how the incumbents might react (19:10), how Covid could create an opening (22:00), how 20 people can change the web (27:00), bypassing Silicon Valley venture capital (30:10), what happens next (32:15), and what a better internet could look like (35:00).

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0:00.0	Yo, technology.
0:03.0	What is it all about?
0:04.5	Today we're facing COVID-19.
0:06.6	Next year or the year after, I think it's unfortunately true.
0:09.7	There'll be another such thing for us all to content with.
0:13.5	And if we don't use this as a chance to really reflect on how better to do all this.
0:19.2	And if we lose the opportunity to reflect on that and make changes appropriately, then
0:23.7	shame on us.
0:28.7	Hello and welcome to Danny in the Valley.
0:31.2	I'm your host, Danny Fortson, the West Coast correspondent for The Sunday Times.
0:36.0	Thank you for tuning in, as always.
0:39.0	I have a question.
0:41.4	Are you happy with the Internet?
0:44.3	Do you think the way it works, the services you can access, are satisfactory?
0:50.2	Is the surveillance capitalism model one that you're totally cool with?
0:54.1	Or would you be interested in something different?
0:57.1	If so, this is the pod for you.
1:00.4	On the program, we have John Bruce, who is the co-founder of Inrupt.
1:07.1	A startup, he set up with a guy you may have heard of.
1:10.0	Sir Tim Berners-Lee, you know, the guy who invented the World Wide Web.
1:15.4	Burners-Lee has long said publicly that the web has gone a bit pear-shaped, that this foot-loose,
1:22.1	fancy free space for creativity, for productivity, for free, has taken a dark turn.
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