The The Welcome back to the UFO Rabbit Hole Podcast. I'm your host Kelly Chase.

The podcast is going to be on hiatus for a few more weeks as I work with the on-tocalyps team

to wrap a production on our upcoming docueries, The Beyond,

UFOs and a new reality, which is due out later this summer.

But I didn't want to leave you guys hanging. So in the meantime I've teamed up with

J. Christopher King to bring you a series of unreleased talks from the phenomenal inquiry

into anomalous experience in the phenomenon conferences.

In the third episode of this series, we're bringing you a panel discussion from the April

2023 conference.

This panel was hosted by Kurt Jaimungal of Theories of Everything and

features Leslie Kane and James Fox.

Listening back to this discussion is especially fascinating, given the timing.

It was just a couple of months before the article written by Leslie Kane and Ralph Blumenthal

broke in the debrief, where the world learned about whistleblower David Grush and his allegations about the existence of top secret

UFO crash retrieval programs.

So besides being a great conversation, it's an interesting time capsule of the period when this story was in development.

One quick note about this episode. The questions from by Jay.

Before we begin, I should mention that this episode is brought to you by the Experencer Group.

The Experencer Group is a private online community dedicated to support, curiosity,

and community for people who've had anomalous events of all kinds.

They hold regular support meetings for people who are processing anomalous experiences, book clubs,

special guest speaker presentations and more.

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