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Bals Risk, including possible loss of capital. Welcome back, everybody. Got an awesome show today.

Today we're joined by Alex Moore, CEO, CIO of FM Investments, which is 19 billion, darn near

20 billion, darn near 50, $100 billion boutique investment firm.

I don't know if you can call it boutique anymore when you're 20 billion. Alex and company entered the ETF Terradone just a few years ago, and it's kind of burst on the scene, made a name for themselves. Alex has keyed into everything going on with bonds and fixed income. We'll talk about that a bit today. Alex, welcome the show. Matt, thanks for having me. And for that intro, I'm worried it's all downhill from here now.

Could be.

Last time we were going downhill on a bus in Utah, drinking some wine or whiskey together, which was a lot of fun. We weren't driving for anyone visiting, just so we're clear. Good point. By the time this publishes, I will have seen you in person in Washington, D.C., which is where you're located, and then probably seeing you in person again coming up, listeners, come see us at Future Proof. As always, we will be hosting a free surf lesson Monday morning. You can email us for the forum, the invite. We can commiserate over happy hour. I think this year it is the Bears Vikings Monday Night Football at HQ Gastropub, also free. But again, you got an RSVP. So hit me up if you want to attend. Ox, you're going to be there? You're going to come surf with us? You know, I might have to just give it a shot. I mean, you have the problem is not to laugh too much.

We're going to talk about a bunch of market stuff. This is your first time in the show. So let's give the listeners a quick background. You started out like me as an engineer. Give me your investment journey because you've been all over the place. Been all over the world doing stuff. my journey was supposed to actually take me to medicine and decided I didn't want to do that.

I had a best friend who was in economics and econometrics major, and I was good at math, and

he was good at the theory.

So I learned a lot of the math of this stuff.

Ended up at a hedge fund in London in 2005 and six when things were really rollicking and taking off.

We built a great business with the group

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