I think part of what's so challenging about all these decisions, marriage, divorce,

child bearing, not child bearing is that it's so difficult to disentangle the expectations

from what you want.

This is Death, Sex, and Money.

To show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot, I need to talk about more.

I'm Anna Seal.

This week we're doing something a little different with the help of Ian Koss, and the podcast

he made about divorce and his family.

The series is called Forever is a Long Time.

There's a little bit of the first episode.

Ian is talking with his father, Tom.

Do you remember how Sebastian and I responded to you guys getting divorced?

Because I have no memory of this.

Well, that's interesting you should mention that.

Because that's one of the few scenes that I really can picture.

There was a therapist there at the Worthington Health Center.

Can you picture that?

Up on the hill in Worthington?

We brought you guys there to tell you that we were getting divorced.

I remember that these tears just sort of spontaneously popped out of your eyes.

And you just like, I don't know.

It was unlike you because you're quite stoic and a lot of voice.

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