Welcome to psychedelics today with Joe and Kyle. It is August 7th, and we are here with our guest, Ingmar Gorman.

Ingmar is a doctoral student in clinical psychology at the New School for Social Research.

He's received clinical training at the Mount Sinai, Beth Israel Hospital, Bellevue Hospital, and the Columbia University

for psychoanalytic training and research. Ingmar conducts psychotherapy research

and MDMA assisted psychotherapy for PTSD for MAPS, the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies.

He is also the administrative director of the Psychedelic Education and Continuing Care Program at the

Center for Optimal Living. Thanks so much for joining us today, Ingmar. Thank you for having me.

So we just briefly met.

I just came to a psychedelic integration group that you just hosted through the Center of Optible Living.

And I think that work is so cool.

It's really exciting that you guys are doing that type of work and giving a space for people to share their experiences that might

have difficulty.

Right, right.

Yeah, so, you know, we host a monthly group that allows people who, you know, they may have

had a psychedelic experience in the past, or they may not have it.

They're just curious about this whole world.

And they can come and it's a confidential group and they can talk about their experiences or ask questions.

And it's really great.

I have to say that we've probably done close to 10 groups now.

And I always go into the group kind of thinking,

I don't know how this is going to be. And then I come out of it. I'm just like,

elated. I'm like, that was awesome. People connected. And it really felt like there was a lot of

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