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Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Information, Misinformation, Disinformation

Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Institute for Government

News, Politics, Government

4.6 • 252 Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2022

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Propaganda in warfare is an ancient concept, but has Russia’s information campaign since it invaded Ukraine taken things to a new level? Are Russia’s state-controlled media and troll factories all about domestic support or an attempt to win international support? And how does the West counter fake news and help ensure that people can trust the information they see?  In this special edition of Inside Briefing, Bronwen Maddox is joined by Marianna Spring, the BBC’s specialist disinformation and social media reporter, Full Fact director Will Moy, and Ian Garner, historian and translator of Russian war propaganda and author of the forthcoming Stalingrad Lives: Stories of Combat & Survival.   Produced by Candice McKenzie. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Inside Briefing, the podcast from the Institute for Government. I'm Bronwyn Maddox.

0:15.8

This week, reports of mass civilian killings by Russian troops followed the weekend discovery of a mass grave in the

0:22.0

Ukrainian town of Boucher. EU leaders have denounced Russia. Oros Johnson has said the killings

0:27.4

could amount to genocide, while the atrocities prompted new sanctions against President Putin's

0:33.1

family. Meanwhile, Russia has rejected responsibility, its state media has dismissed the footage as fake,

0:39.3

and the sights of bodies lying in the streets as staged.

0:43.3

Putin has instead accused Ukraine of genocide in the Donbass region, a claim German Chancellor Olaf Schultz has called ridiculous.

0:50.3

Now, propaganda in warfare is an ancient concept, but has Russia's information campaign in this one

0:56.0

taken it to a new level? Russia's state-controlled media and troll factories all about domestic

1:01.3

support or an attempt to win international support. And how does the West counter fake news and

1:07.4

help ensure that people can trust the information that they see and hear.

1:11.7

For this special edition of Inside Briefing, we're delving into the world of information,

1:15.0

misinformation, disinformation, both in Ukraine and beyond. I'm joined today by two people who know

1:21.4

more than most about the way that information is used and abused. Ian Garner, historian and translator of Russian war propaganda.

1:31.3

His book, Starlingrad Lives,

1:33.0

Stories of Combat and Survival, will be released later this year.

1:36.2

Ian, thanks very much for being here.

1:37.6

Thank you for having me.

1:39.5

And you're not actually here where I am.

1:41.4

You're in fact speaking to us from Canada.

1:42.9

Thank you very much indeed.

1:44.9

And we're very pleased to be joined as well by Will Moy, Chief Executive and founder of Full

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