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Hi, could I speak to Jim? Hi, I'm here. Hi, Jim. You're answering your own calls? Yes, I always answer my own calls because I like hearing from people. Welcome to Social Distance, the Atlantic's podcast about the pandemic.

I'm James Hamblin, staff writer, and joined by Maeve Higgins, extraordinary writer and comedian

and actor.

And Catherine Wells is away again today, but glad to have you back, Meave. Thank you so much. We're going to get to this episode but I've been dying to tell you about the latest Irish news. Yes, you know you didn't ask but you are the voice of Ireland that is what you are known as.

I just think you know this is a worldwide terror that's what COVID is, but here it's having this interesting life of its own because there are these nuns, you know nuns?

I do, not personally.

Okay, right, you don't know any nuns? I do. Not person.

Right.

You don't know any nuns?

Uh, no.

Oh.

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