I need sports to have to clear the room.

Stand up and walk now.

Hello and welcome to The Watch. My name is Chris Ryan.

I am an editor at the ringer.com and joining me in the studio, the world is showing him what it is.

It's Andy Greenwald!

Happy Sunday night.

Greenwald, a little bit of a frog in my throat.

I promise, it's just because it's CR month, not because I'm radioactive with any kind of disease.

We come to the end of another season of industry.

What we find out is now the second to last season of industry.

Season five will be the final

season. You and I are here to talk about the season finale of season four, and we're going to be

joined shortly by Mickey Down and Conrad Kay, the creators of the show to talk to us about this

season and this pretty stunning season finale. We could start in so many different places. We've got a time jump.

We've got a giant swan dive into the international criminal underworlds. We've got my guys in Russia

just reaching, stirring some pots. Where do you want to start, man? I love the way you talk about them.

They're your rivals and football manager.

Yeah, but they're also like, you know what?

I look across the table and I'm like, I see you old friends. I respect the way you play the game. My cozy bear out there. Yeah. Like our old friend Clovis once said as he went out to the third story window. So what did you think of the finale? this was a remarkable hour plus, extraordinary hour plus of television.

I remember back in the glory days of Mad Men when we were potting about it and talking about it,

and I was writing about it, I kind of reached this point where I said,

it's not only that this is the best written show on TV, it's the most written

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