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Thanks for downloading the Witness History podcast from the BBC World Service with me, Laura Jones.

In 1998, presidents to Harto of Indonesia resigned after 32 years of military rule.

It meant people from indigenous communities were finally free to speak out

after years of oppression. We're in central Jakarta in 1999, and people are showing off

their traditional dress to surprised onlookers. This is the first ever Congress of Indigenous

Peoples of the Archipelago of Indonesia, a moment of celebration, and a moment of shared grief.

All of different cultures, different customs, different dress coming up together,

different languages. It was the very first moment where all the people that formed what so

called diversity coming together in the heart of Indonesia. There was discussions about how do we

handle government who are still very much looking at us as alien. You are alien to us.

Ruka Sambalinghi is from the Taraja tribe of Sulawesi, one of thousands of indigenous communities

scattered across the archipelago of Indonesian islands. She says from the moment she heard about

the struggles of other communities she needed to help. When I started to hear all these stories,

that's really the point where I feel like this is going to be the fight I will spend the rest

of my life on. It's estimated that between 50 and 70 million indigenous people live in the country,

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