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The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

Indigenous Wisdom: Resilience, Adaptation, and Seeing Nature as Ourselves with Casey Camp-Horinek

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

Nate Hagens

Natural Sciences, Earth Sciences, Science

4.8552 Ratings

🗓️ 24 July 2024

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

(Conversation recorded on June 12th, 2024)  

Show Summary: 

As we move through difficult cultural transitions and rethink our governance systems, it will be critical that we listen to voices that are rooted beyond the conventional Western thinking that has come to dominate our society. As such, it is always an honor when Indigenous leaders share their experiences and wisdom with the broader public.

This week, Casey Camp-Horinek of the Ponca Nation joins Nate to recount her decades of work in Indigenous and environmental activism. Her stories shed light on the often-overlooked struggles and tragedies faced by Indigenous communities in their efforts to restore and safeguard their homelands. Casey also shares her current work advocating for The Rights of Nature - which legalizes the same rights of personhood to Earth's ecosystems - of which the Ponca Nation was the first tribe in the US to implement. 

How is the treatment of Indigenous people under the United States government reflective of the exploitative relationship between industrial systems and the Earth? What is 'Post-Traumatic Growth' and how could it assist in healing the deeper cultural wounds obstructing genuine dialogue and change? Could aligning our current laws with the laws of nature - followed by every other species - result in a more sustainable, interconnected, and thriving humanity? 

 

About Casey Camp-Horinek:

Casey Camp-Horinek, Councilwoman and Hereditary Drumkeeper of the Women's Scalp Dance Society of the Ponca Nation of Oklahoma, is a longtime activist, environmentalist, actress, and published author. First taking up the cause of Native and Human Rights in the early '70s, it has been in the last 15 years that she began her plea for Environmental Justice for her Ponca people and people around the globe. Casey has identified and diligently worked to remediate the corridor of toxic industry surrounding the historic lands of the Ponca people.

Because of Casey's work, the Ponca Nation is the first Tribe in the State of Oklahoma to adopt the Rights of Nature Statute, and to pass a moratorium on fracking on Tribal Lands. Casey was also instrumental in the drafting and adoption of the first ever International Indigenous Women's Treaty protecting the Rights of Nature. Casey is a board member for Women's Earth and Climate Action Network, Movement Rights, as well as Earthworks. Casey Camp-Horinek has also been a film actor since 1988, starring in Avatar: The Last Airbender, Winter in the Blood, Barking Water and Goodnight Irene.

 

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virtually everything else in the world still follows natural law.

0:05.0

And the only humans have tried to act like,

0:09.0

well, we'll think of some words and we'll put it on a paper

0:12.0

and we'll all agree with it, and then that's the law.

0:16.0

And that's what the indigenous viewpoint and understanding has to offer.

0:26.5

What has worked in the past?

0:28.7

What has it been that allows us to live on this earth

0:34.0

and to breathe the air, drink the water, eat the food.

0:38.3

It's because we're an interrelated species.

0:42.3

And so as an interrelated species, nature's doing fine.

0:48.3

It's only humans that are really messing up.

0:53.3

You're listening to the Great Simplification that are really messing up.

0:58.0

You're listening to the Great Simplification.

0:59.3

I'm Nate Higgins.

1:02.5

On this show, we describe how energy, the economy,

1:05.8

the environment, and human behavior all fit together and what it might mean for our future.

1:08.6

By sharing insights from global thinkers,

1:12.4

we hope to inform and inspire more humans to play emergent roles in the coming great simplification.

1:22.5

Today I am honored to welcome Casey Camp Horanek of the Ponca Nation in what's now called Oklahoma to the

1:30.6

podcast. I heard Casey speak earlier this year at Bioners and was blown away by her grace, eloquence,

1:39.7

and drive for supporting the rights of nature.

1:47.0

She is a long time activist, environmentalist,

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