At Quaker, we know that when you make real food like porridge, it can be a bit, well, lumpy, splodgy,

goopy, bloopy, a shocker, a crocker, bad-looking, bag of spanners, butters, ghoulish, monstrous,

unsightly abominable, frumpish, uglier sin.

But when it's as tasty and easy to make as Quaker,

it's all part of the charm really, isn't it? Quaker, deliciously real, deliciously ugly.

Hello and welcome to the Sophie Ridge on Sunday podcast, with concerns that a variant from India could disrupt the UK's roadmap out of lockdown.

We heard from the Health Secretary Matt Hancock this week, plus some scientific experts, Sir Mark Warport and Professor Adam Finn.

Thank you. Professor Adam Finn. We're joined as usual by Mike Lavender.

Hello, you're right?

I'm good.

Had a couple of weeks off.

Yes.

Yeah, apologies to regular listeners who were wondering where the pod's been for the last

couple of weeks. I know a few people got in touch on Twitter, didn't they, where the pod's been for the last couple of weeks.

I know a few people got in touch on Twitter, didn't they?

Yeah, they did.

So apologies.

I've had a variety of personal things and not feeling very well last week and that.

And what we've discovered is that if I'm not very well, then there's no one to put the podcast together.

A problem that we have only encountered when it's happened. Yeah. But yeah, that's why we've been away, so sorry about

that, but we are back. My technical skills are not really up to it. So I just spend 40 minutes talking

to myself and then not be able to do anything with it. Yeah, so you'd literally sit in the studio

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