India vs Pakistan: the Kashmir conflict explained
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🗓️ 8 May 2025
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Summary
Tensions are rising between India and Pakistan after 26 people were killed in Kashmir - the disputed region that sits between them. Now, India has fired missiles into Pakistan and Pakistan says it’s killed dozens of Indian soldiers. But why is Kashmir a flashpoint and could this be the spark that takes the two nuclear powers to war?
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Guest: Andrew Whitehead, former BBC India Correspondent and author of ‘A Mission in Kashmir.’
Host: Luke Jones.
Producer: Olivia Case.
Further Reading: Why did India attack Pakistan? The Kashmir crisis explained.
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| 0:43.1 | If you head to the Kashmir Valley, high up over 7,000 feet or so, there is an incredibly picturesque town called Pahalgam. |
| 0:52.7 | It's on the Leder River River and it's known for being incredibly |
| 0:56.2 | beautiful. It's lush green meadows, coniferous forests snaking up the mountainside, which is capped with |
| 1:03.1 | snow in winter. And it is why millions of tourists a year head there. But last month, for the first |
| 1:09.8 | time in quite a while, some of those |
| 1:12.2 | tourists were caught up in the region's long-running conflict. |
| 1:15.6 | A group of gunmen opened fire on Hindu pilgrims. The shooting and its aftermath were caught on camera. |
| 1:30.3 | Please ask for help. We don't need. |
| 1:32.3 | Okay, don't worry. You're okay? You need a water, sir? |
| 1:35.3 | Sir, we'll manage. Just ask for help. |
| 1:37.3 | Okay, you... Firstly, you give the water, drop of water. Take a drop of a photo. |
| 1:41.3 | This woman's husband was one of those shots. |
| 1:52.8 | Speaking to a pass-a-bye in a mix of English, Hindi and Urdu, she says, |
| 1:55.2 | I was here eating snacks on the side of the road. |
| 1:58.2 | My husband was on the side, then one person shot him. |
| 2:01.3 | He said, maybe he's not Muslim, and he shot him. He said, he said, he said, he said, he said, maybe he's not Muslim, and he shot him. |
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