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🗓️ 13 November 2025
⏱️ 24 minutes
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Clare is walking in the Cotswolds with author Corinne Fowler and historian Raj Pal, whose family has roots in both Britain and India.
Corinne is leading the way, recreating and extending the “Indian Walk in the Cotswolds” walk she originally took with Raj for a chapter in her book Our Island Stories: Ten Walks through Rural Britain and its Hidden History of Empire. As they ramble, they reflect on how the British countryside is deeply connected to colonial history.
Beginning on the Heart of England Way at Bourton on the Hill, they pass Sezincote House, a Neo-Mughal estate built in 1805 by a former East India Company officer, take in the Church of St James in Longborough, before circling back to the Horse and Groom pub in Bourton.
Map: OS Explorer OL45 The Cotswolds - Burford, Chipping Camden, Cirencester, Stow on the Wold Grid Ref: SP 173 325 Near the Horse & Groom pub, Bourton on the Hill
Presenter: Clare Balding Producer for BBC Studios: Karen Gregor
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| 0:39.7 | way, Corinne? Yeah, we are. Great. Just up to the gate and through the gate. Oh, look at that. |
| 0:45.2 | We are recording this on a bright, fresh autumn day. And up ahead of me, I can see the glowing red of an acer or a maple tree and there's a birch tree |
| 0:57.8 | on the right that has those sort of long hanging drooping branches like a weeping willow |
| 1:02.8 | I think it might be called a weeping birch we are in the heart of the coxswolds in gloucestershire |
| 1:09.6 | in fact on the heart of englandotswolds in Gloucestershire. In fact, on the heart of England Way, |
| 1:14.0 | which is one of the many footpiles and many routes that Corrin Fowler has explored |
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| 1:26.5 | It's called our island stories. |
| 1:29.0 | The two passions are... |
| 1:31.4 | Colonial history and walking in the countryside. |
| 1:35.5 | We will explore your themes more fully. |
| 1:38.7 | And also with us is Raj Powell, |
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