Independent Media & Trump Cover-Ups; A Conversation with Joyce Vance and Katie Phang
The Mary Trump Podcast
Mary Trump Media
4.9 • 847 Ratings
🗓️ 20 February 2026
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Mary is joined by Joyce Vance and Katie Phang for a wide-ranging discussion on the direction of executive power under Donald’s administration. From unrest in Minneapolis to mounting concerns about the independence of the Justice Department, they examine the legal, institutional, and democratic implications of recent events. The conversation also explores the growing role of independent media in shaping public accountability, and how civic engagement and grassroots activism are evolving in response to political instability across the country.
Check out Joyce Vance on the Podcast Sisters In Law
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sistersinlaw/id1551206847
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https://katiephang.substack.com/
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| 0:00.0 | I recently sat down with my very dear friends, Joyce fans and Katie Fang to talk about everything that's going on. |
| 0:17.2 | It was not quite as awesome as being in the same room with them, but it was pretty close. |
| 0:22.9 | So grab yourself a cup of coffee. Joyce had a triple espresso and I had a quad. Just kidding. I think that would have killed me. Anyway, get your coffee, get your knitting, get comfortable and enjoy. I'd say as much as I did, but that's impossible because I enjoyed this a lot. |
| 0:45.3 | Mary, while people are joining us, wow, you guys are really showing up. Show us your coffee cup. |
| 0:50.4 | Look, on one side, it says Mary Trump. Mary Trump Media. On the other side, it says, Mary Trump Media. |
| 0:55.3 | On the other side, it says where fake news goes to die. |
| 0:59.8 | I love this. Why do I not have one of these? |
| 1:01.8 | Yeah, why do we not have our words? |
| 1:03.1 | Just got them, don't worry. |
| 1:04.9 | Ew, send it quickly. |
| 1:07.4 | Okay, I'm going to show you all mine in light of what happened yesterday at the Pentagon. |
| 1:11.2 | Did you see yesterday Pete Hengseth had this supposed Christian nationalist pastor to offer Christian prayer at the Pentagon? |
| 1:19.9 | This is a guy who's on record is saying that the constitutional amendment that guarantees the three of us, all women, the right to vote, that it should |
| 1:28.4 | be repealed. So my coffee cup this morning says votes for women. Beautiful. We should get one of those, too. |
| 1:35.7 | Can I show my coffee cup? It's dedicated to Pete Heggsaf. This is my coffee cup, dedicated Pete Head Seth. Thank you. |
| 1:43.3 | That's my favorite one. You know, it's like special. Hanging out with you all, get me in trouble. I try so hard not to swear publicly because I have four children, and I just don't want them to catch me at it, and you guys are already pushing the buttons. But choice, there's a reason we call her Katie fucking Fang. |
| 2:02.3 | That's true. |
| 2:03.7 | P-H-U-C. |
| 2:04.8 | I was thinking about apostrophe. |
| 2:07.0 | This morning, when we were sitting around at your place, Mary, we were talking, it was like |
| 2:11.4 | right when Katie got her MSNBC show. |
| 2:14.4 | And we were talking about what the name of the show should be in somebody, and it might |
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