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Childproof

Independence

Childproof

Gwenna Laithland and Tori Phantom

Kids & Family, Parenting

4.92K Ratings

🗓️ 20 August 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Much of raising kids is fostering, dealing with, and cleaning up from our kids doing stuff “by themself”. Our goal, among others, is to parent ourselves out of a job which means letting them try, fail, revise, and try again. But as our kids get older those fails get fewer and far between and they start realizing all this independence we’ve been letting them practice with was for a reason. They are going to actually grow up and be independent. For real for real. But that doesn’t mean they have to be alone. We want to hear from you. Got a funny story, a question or anything else you'd like to share? E-mail us: childproofmail@gmail.com Subscribe for pre-show bonus content Be sure to check out the other shows from Pleasant Phantom Productions: Founded Bibliophage Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:29.8

The prep for those moments is when your kid gets birthday money and then you're out of

0:35.9

store and they're like, oh, can I get this?

0:39.0

Yeah, you have to spend your own money and then they're like, wait, do I really want it though?

0:41.2

Yeah.

0:42.3

Raising a well-behaved child in this world

0:44.4

requires strict discipline and punishment.

0:46.7

Today we will look...

0:48.1

No, the fuck we will not.

0:49.8

No, the fuck we will not.

1:04.5

Yeah. Hello and welcome to Child Proof from Pleasant Phantom Productions. I'm Gwenalithland.

1:05.5

And I'm Tori Phantom.

1:07.3

And today we're going to be to.

1:09.0

I'm going to do it myself.

1:11.7

All right. Independence. We love to do it myself. All right.

1:12.6

Independence.

1:13.3

We love to see it.

1:14.2

Intro the podcast then.

1:16.1

And today we're going to be doing an episode on independence, not the declaration, though.

1:21.1

But we're going to be talking about having it, learning it, and teaching it to our kids.

1:30.1

But first, even independence has boundaries and on childproof, our boundary is timer-shaped. Start the timer. Just like we started the timer,

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