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He's trying to reflect the common mind, right, the sentiment of the time in doing this.

This is your host, Scott Bertram. Welcome to the Radio Free News. right, the sentiment of the time in doing this.

This is your host, Scott Bertram.

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This is a special Independence Day edition of the program.

You just heard briefly from Dr. Matt Spalding from Hillsdale in D.C. He'll join us again in a moment to talk about Thomas Jefferson's influence and how he helped shape the declaration. And later on in today's program, Robert R. Riley, with the defense of the founding and his book, America on trial. First, Dr. Spalding is vice president of Washington Operations and Dean of the Van

Andal Graduate School of Government at Hillsdale in D.C. We talked at length with Dr. Spalding about

Thomas Jefferson and the Declaration of Independence. Dr. Spalding, thanks for joining us.

Great to be with you, Scott. And thanks for hosting me today as I visit in Washington

at the Kirby Center, the Boyle Radio studio here, a magnificent layout. It was a pleasure to be here

in Washington and to talk. We've talked previously on the program about the Declaration of Independence.

I wanted to spend some time today speaking specifically about Thomas Jefferson and his contributions, large as they are, to the Declaration.

When we think of the Declaration of Independence, we know Congress had appointed a committee.

So how did the Declaration chiefly then become the work of one Thomas Jefferson?

That's actually a great question.

The history leading up to this moment, I think, if I can make just one step backwards, is very important.

If you recall what gives rise, the American Revolution, all these

various things the British are doing after the end of the French Indian War, so that decade

preceding it, they're raising taxes. They start enforcing their laws. They eventually are

housing troops. So this has been building up. The colonies start agitating and they eventually

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