And I don't sit there and immediately go, I must do another incredible, because

Incredibles was a hit and I must follow a hit up with another one or else, that's not the way

my brain works. It's more like a giant airplane hanger and there are different projects being

assembled in different parts of the chamber.

I'm Sean Fennesee, Editor and Chief of the Ringer and this is the big picture. A conversation

show with some of the most interesting filmmakers in the world. Brad Bird is a Pixar original.

As a member of the animation giant's early brain trust, he made classics like Raditouille

and the Incredibles. But his career started well before that with a hand drawn cult classic

The Iron Giant. And it later evolved into live action with Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol,

a personal favorite of mine, and then 2015's Tomorrowland.

Now Bird is returned to his roots with Incredibles 2, another story about the superpowered

par family. This time Bird tangles with parental frustrations, adolescent anxiety,

and the burdens of responsibility. It's as fun and clever as the original and choices flashy.

I talked to Bird about how Pixar has changed over the years and how he bounced back from the

criticisms of Tomorrowland. Here's Brad Bird.

Absolutely delight to be joined by Brad Bird, the director of Incredibles 2, along with many other

films you probably love. Brad, thanks for joining me. Pleasure. So Brad, it's been more than 10 years

since you released an animated film. Yes. And I was wondering if you could talk just at the top

about maybe some things you learned working on live action movies that you might have brought

back to this new Incredibles movie. It's not been that abrupt. I think that I was kind of lucky

in that I went from hand drawn animation to CG animation before I did live action because CG

kind of mimics the lenses and how they work. And when you lay things out, camera moves,

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