Hey, it's NPR's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbung. Sometimes I think insecurity is learned. You know, when you're young and you don't know what you don't know, that can give you the blind confidence to really go after what you want. It's something I gleaned from today's interview with Eve. She's a famous rapper that I remember hearing all the time on the radio. And she's out with a memoir titled, Who's That Girl? And in it, she hits on the beat you'd expect from any celebrity memoir, the come-up, the grind of the industry, interpersonal beefs, that sort of thing. But in this interview with NPR's Aisha Roscoe, they talk about something deeper, which is the freedom to be seen how you want to be seen and how that uphill battle has changed for female rappers today.

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Eve's back.

She sure was and still is rapper, actor, fashion designer and occasional fashion model

Eve burst onto the scene

in the late 90s

and by the early aughts

she was a bona fide star

the first lady of Rough Riders

chart-topping hits

and collabs all over the place

you might recognize this one

I had to be more it's only been a year and collabs all over the place, you might recognize this one. But the path to start him was rocky.

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