In Ukraine, the Men Who Must Stay and Fight

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🗓️ 1 March 2022

⏱️ 44 minutes

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This episode contains strong language. As the Russian assault has intensified, the government in Ukraine has enacted martial law, requiring men to stay in the country and either join the fight or face the prospect of conscription. We tell the story of three of those men: Eugene, an I.T. worker from the northeastern city of Kharkiv; Tyhran, an animator who attempted to cross the border into Poland; and Andrew, who signed up for the territorial defense force two weeks ago. Guests: Clare Toeniskoetter, a senior producer for The Daily; and Lynsea Garrison, a senior international producer for The Daily.

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0:35.4	Hello, Claire.
0:39.4	Hi.
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0:41.4	Last Thursday, I saw a story starting to play out on Twitter.
0:46.1	This woman, Tara, Tara Nightsy, an American who had been living in Kiev, but who happened
0:51.7	to be staying outside the city at the time of the invasion.
0:55.5	Was on an evacuation bus, headed for the border with Poland.
0:59.3	And she was basically documenting, in real time, this situation that was playing out.
1:05.0	So I called her and asked her to tell me the story.
1:08.2	So literally Wednesday night, I fell asleep and my phone is beeping at like 8 a.m. in
1:14.2	the morning, local time.
1:17.1	And then all of a sudden I realized stuff was happening.
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