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In this novel, the residents of a Brussels apartment building brace for Nazi invasion

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4.2 • 672 Ratings

🗓️ 18 December 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

33 Place Brugmann opens with a list of the residents of a Brussels apartment building. The year is 1939 and Germany’s invasion of Belgium is on the horizon. Alice Austen’s debut novel winds together the fates of these residents under Nazi occupation. In today’s episode, Austen joins NPR’s Scott Simon for a conversation that touches on the backstory of the building’s address, how she balanced the novel’s many narrative voices, and the questions that consumed her as she wrote the book.


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Hey, it's NPR's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbong. There's something beautiful about living in an

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apartment building where the folks upstairs, downstairs, down the hall, whatever, they're all a part of

0:14.5

your life. Yes, this can be very annoying depending on your tolerance for sound, smells, and small talk, but it's a

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microcosm of life of society. The novel 33 Plaza Brugman is set in an apartment building

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in Brussels in 1939. If you know the slightest bit about history, you know what's going on.

0:35.3

And in this interview with NPR Scott Simon,

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author Alice Austin talks about how the bonds of society aren't tested by the people in power.

0:49.0

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Listen to Trump's terms on the NPR app or wherever you get your

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podcasts. A new novel, 33 plus Brugman, opens with a list of the residents of a Brussels apartment

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building. There are the Sauvans, a widower and his daughter, an apartment 4L, and across the hall of the Raphael family,

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but they've disappeared in the middle of the night.

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It's 1939.

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Germany's invasion of Belgium is on the horizon,

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and that list is signed as though ready to be handed over to authorities.

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The fates of the building's residents wind together in this first

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novel from Alice Austin, who joins us from the studios of WUWM in Milwaukee. Thanks so much for

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