One week ago, the Senate voted on the most significant school choice legislation in our nation's history.

And joining us to discuss it are the two authors of that legislation,

Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, and the host of this show, this is verdict with Ted Cruz.

I think I should point out I was not one of the authors of that legislation,

that would be the actual host of the show, Senator Ted Cruz,

and Madam Secretary, thank you so much for being here.

It's a pleasure.

Well, it is great to have Betsy join us.

You know, Betsy and I have been friends now, I think what, two decades?

At least, yeah.

And I got to say, Betsy is extraordinary.

She was a nationally renowned business leader,

and she's been an education leader for a long, long time.

She has been fighting for school choice in the trenches, fighting to make a difference for kids

in the inner cities, kids that are struggling to give them a chance.

Mm-hmm.

Well, thanks, Ted.

It's a pleasure to join you and to have a chance to talk about my passion.

You know, I've noticed something about this issue.

It seems so clear-cut.

There seem to be so many advantages to school choice.

Madam Secretary, you seem like a very nice, lovely person, and yet this issue,

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