Welcome to the fitness and nutrition edition of In the Trenches. We've got Ben Herbert

Strength and Conditioning Coach for the Michigan Football Program. Abigail O'Connor

nutrition specialist for the Michigan football program. They joined us here today on In the Trenches.

Let's go In the Tren trenches with John Jansen.

The former Wolverines captain in Michigan Sports Hall of Famer will take you inside the locker room with players and coaches.

What you're doing in here on a daily basis, don't lose sight of what it's for when those pads come on.

You know, when you buckle that chin strap and you get a chance to line up across from a guy.

You get a couple kids by in and then they hit conditioning and they're just like leaps

and bounds ahead of their teammates and then there's a line outside of my office like whoa

what how did he do that you actually have guys that that put on that survey that they didn't like

bacon once again here's john jansen We've got two great interviews coming up.

I spoke with both of our participants today, Ben Herbert and Abigail O'Connor, for about 20 minutes apiece.

So we're going to keep the intro here a little bit brief as we do every time.

I want to bring in Brian Bush.

Brian, what type of fitness and nutrition are involved in being a producer?

Not nearly enough, John, that's for sure.

I was blown away at some of the things that Abigail in particular talked about.

I know for a fact that I'm never going to be as strong as buff as Ben Herbert is,

but now I've confirmed I will never be able to eat as well as Abigail and these Michigan football players.

But there are some great interviews.

We want to get into those pretty quickly.

I want to get a couple of thoughts from you first, John.

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