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The Documentary Podcast

In the Studio: Behind the scenes with Ken Loach

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.32.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

The Old Oak will be Ken Loach's last feature film and Sharuna Sagar was granted exclusive access behind the scenes of this landmark movie. She joins the 86-year-old director on his swansong as he brings together his loyal team for one last time. As with his previous two films, I, Daniel Blake and Sorry We Missed You, Ken returns to the North East of England, to tell the story of Syrian refugees who have been housed in an ex-mining village. With him are his long-standing partners, producer Rebecca O'Brien and writer Paul Laverty, and they reveal the secrets of Loach's success, with films like Kes, Cathy Come Home and The Wind That Shakes The Barley.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the documentary in the studio from the BBC World Service.

0:08.3

In this edition, there's another chance to hear our award-winning program

0:12.2

about legendary filmmaker Ken Lodge, who directed classics like Kearse,

0:17.2

Kathy Come Home and I, Daniel Blake.

0:21.7

There's a poem by Brex that's kind of quoted before.

0:25.2

I always thought the simplest of words must suffice.

0:28.7

When I say what things are like, it'll break the hearts of all.

0:33.6

That you go down if you don't fight is surely clear to you.

0:36.6

Simplest of words, like the simplest of shots,

0:39.9

but there's got to be a steel underneath it, you know.

0:44.4

Which was produced by me, Stephen Hughes, and presenter Shuruna Saga.

0:51.0

I'm speaking to you from the Cannes Film Festival,

0:53.8

where Ken Loach's new film, The Old Oak, is getting its world premiere.

0:58.0

I'm stood by the red carpet waiting for the acclaimed British director, his cast and collaborators to walk past and enter the screening.

1:17.4

Ken is one of only nine directors to have won Cannes top prize, the Palm Door, twice.

1:23.8

Once in 2006 for the win that shakes the barley, and then a decade later for I. Daniel Blake,

1:28.5

which was the first of three films he made in succession in the northeast of England.

1:33.1

The spiritual home this part has been over the years.

1:36.2

It represents something that... I've been given exclusive access to the veteran filmmaker as he directs the Old Oak,

1:41.3

the final film in the trilogy, and by his own admission, the last future film he's ever likely to make.

1:52.7

I think a film might just be tricky to do again,

1:55.5

just because certain facilities fail a bit.

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