Hi, everybody. This is Kimberly. And this is Katie. And you're listening to A Date with Murdoch, a date with

Dateline. This episode we've been waiting for since news broke two days ago. And we're very excited.

This episode is called In the Matter of Alex, Alec, Murdoch. We'll get to it.

This aired on May 15th, 2026. It is season 34, episode 44. It's hosted by Craig Melvin,

who we love seeing. Give us more Kelvin. Why do I still call him

Kelvin? Don't know. My brain puts the two together. It's fine. But this is all Calvin does.

Kelvin is associated with Murdoch. And the Today Show. Is it because there's like a hard K sound

in his name? Craig, Murdoch, Alec. No, he's from South Carolina.

That's why. Okay, there we go. I forget every time. I surprisingly remember a lot about this case,

though. How could you forget? Compared to other episodes, you completely forget we've ever done

that this person ever existed.

100%. This one, I was like, oh, they're not going to talk about this.

Because I actually thought of things that they weren't bringing up in the dateline, which is usually a Kimberly thing, not necessarily a Katie thing. So look at me go.

That shows you how memorable this is. So if you are not a true crime person,

you might not have heard of this case. But if that is the case, you probably don't know

what true crime podcasts are and are not listening to my voice right now and might not know what people

are, which we are. You just know everyone's heard of this case. My point is. It's true.

Katie has a cold. She might be occasionally sneezing, snodding like Alec up on that stand.

I do have a mute button that I'm going to use judiciously, unlike the justices. I'm just kidding.

It's fine. So in case you're not familiar, you can go back to our earlier episodes on this ever-folding saga episodes like murder,

power, privilege, and scandal, and the trial of Elek Murdao.

Or you can just keep listening because we'll be covering most of the case today

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