From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is the business.

They heard porn and their reaction was, oh, hot, porn show, great.

And I was like, maybe we're not meant to be a business together.

Maybe this is just a miss here.

Yeah, I don't think you're hearing porn the way I'm saying porn.

When David Simon started shopping his new show, The Deuce, about the rise and legalization of the porn

industry, he quickly realized that a lot of networks didn't quite grasp his seriousness of purpose.

The creator of The Wire and Tramay tells us how the Deuce ended up back at Simon's long-time

TV home, HBO, why he was interested in making a show about porn in the first place and the importance

of Maggie Gyllenhaal. But first on the news banter, another director is ushered out of the

Star Wars universe. Stay tuned. It's the business from KCRW.

I am joined by a special guest co-banterer, Richard Rushfield of the Ancler, which is a daily newsletter about Hollywood.

Very clever daily newsletter about Hollywood.

Matt Bellany is out of pocket right now because of the Toronto Film Festival.

But Richard is on the case.

And we'll start with the case being Star Wars. You know, Lucasfilm dispatched another

director, Colin Travaro. This was in the script stage of episode nine of Star Wars. I really have

trouble with the numbering of Star Wars episodes, I admit. You know, this follows the dispatch of

Josh Trank before he even started. He had

fantastic Fort Fox that didn't go well, and there were clearly issues that concerned Lucasfilm,

and then they dispatched Lord and Miller from young Han Solo, and that was kind of shocking.

Lord and Miller have a track record and a following, unlike these young guys that they tend to go to.

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