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I'm Rebecca LaVoy, and this is Crime Writers On.

Crime Writers On is the original True Crime Review podcast that digs in a true crime,

pop culture, other podcasts, and on this episode, he's one of Britain's most infamous killers accused of murdering his whole family. Can overlooked evidence prove he was wrongfully convicted?

We'll discuss the new season of In the Dark, Blood Relatives. Joining me to get that done and more is True Crime Author, TV Journalist, and host of. These are their stories podcast, my husband, and The Love of My Life, Kevin Flynn. Hello, Kevin. Hello, Rebecca. Also with us, private investigator, certified pet detective, resident cat lady, and author of the Final Curtain, Lara Bricker. Hi, Laura. Hey, Rebecca. And finally, our captain of all things cynical, author of the city trilogy, host of Rip Current, more like ancient phalions, strange arrivals, and our Patreon book club podcast, Toby Ball. Hi, Toby. Hey, Rebecca. So, Kevin, this is Monday's program. It is. What's coming up on Thursday show? On Thursday, we're going to talk about the series on

Peacock called All Her Fault. All right. I can't wait to talk about that one. Laura, quick question for you?

Because women are tricky. We are tricky. Yeah. Quick question for you, Laura.

Yes. Are you drunk? No, I'm not. I had a... I was writing an article for the like the Home and Food section about glue vine. And when I went out to do the interview at like 1130, they're like, well, you need to sample some of this glue vine. Tell people what glue vine is for those who don't know like everybody. It is. It's a more fancy sounding mold wine. It's German mold wine. They serve it in Christmas

markets in Germany and Switzerland when it's time to go shopping. And my local vineyard over in Newfields

is now making it and serving it for the winter. Listen, local vineyards in New Hampshire are known

for the best quality alcohol. That's for sure. Yeah, this one isn't bad. I'll just say, I was really surprised we went to Europe in September how big Christmas is in Germany and Switzerland, just like as a theme, as so many Christmas stores. And then they talk about the Christmas market. I can't even imagine what the Christmas market would be like. Sounds like it would be really, really something. Apparently that's your first stop. I interviewed my friend Rolf, who is actually from Switzerland about this. And he said that's the first stop when you go to the Christmas market is the glue vine stand. Oh, nice. Fortify yourself. I just remember Hickory Farms. Yeah. Or what was in Hickory Farm? What was the place where you get like summer sausage and beef sticks? And what was that? That was Hickory Farms. My grandmother used to really like the mustard from there. So, yeah. It was like a mall store. It wasn't even a mall store as a mall stand in our mall.

Yes,

it was like you would pop up right after Thanksgiving and be gone by New Year's. What is that other brand that you sometimes get gift boxes from and everything and it is terrible? Harry and David. Yeah. The pairs. Not a sponsor of this program. The pairs are fine. They're just pairs. but like all the cheeses and meats are like what you would get in a lunchable. They're so. And they have great branding. It looks like it's going to be fancy. Then you open it and you're like disappointing sausage. Well, if you get those pairs, you can also add them to the glue vine and then put them on salad. Oh, all right. A little tip that I'm adding in my article. Amazing. Or you could just throw them away.

No, we ate them left. the glue vine and then put them on salad. Oh, all right. A little tip that I'm adding in my article.

Amazing.

Or you could just throw them away. No, we ate them last time. Put them on the salad, a little blue cheese, a little candied pecan. Very good. All right. All right, Kevin. We have a big podcast to talk about. Should we get to that? Let's do that. All right. leading off.

They appeared to have

all the advantages in the world.

Wealth,

glamour,

station. Let's do that. All right. Leading off. They appeared to have all the advantages in the world.

Wealth, glamour, status.

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